great music

Jun 20

great music

Posted by iluvthestrokes on

obviously the people on this site hav great taste in music but unfortunatly, ther r some people who listen 2 rap (or as i say "crap") or pop or whatever u want 2 call it but its still bad music!!!! all of that ruens music!! all it realy is is people talking 2 a beat!! the people who write it should NOT be able 2 hold an instrument or even a microphone!!!!
the bands that i think r great r:
the strokes
pink floyd
oasis
panic at the disco
weezer
green day

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[quote="knowing you"][quote="Guille1790"]I agree with the OP. You CAN dismiss a whole genre or better said type of music because sometimes the type it is is used bad by nature. For example, with pop music, it is simply made to sell, therefore even if it is not too bad it cannot be really good music. Because 'good' is more than a moral statement or social term to denote value. For me, music is a form of art, and I understand music with the nature of art, that is, expression of sensations (not only emotions, even though people think that) through a medium in order to transmit a message with value, it must have meaning. And art has progress, and is not interested in practical aspects. In this way, the music that is most art is classical music, simply by its nature, as it requiers composers to be extremely creative but also having knowledge and talent in order to transmit so much with music. Then, I would say more or less in order are jazz, blues, singer-songwriters, rock, traditional pop (20s-50s)... Pop is down at the bottom. It is not creative for most of its elements, it is extremely repetitive, not meaningfull and mass-oriented. Rap is also not art because first it is not music, as there is no kind of musical elements (melodies, etz) and no composition, and the nature of its lyrics is pop-liek even if rap people think they are different. Rock is on the edge, really: there are many rock bands that do not make art with their music (red hot chili pepers, green day, metallica, many many). But there are also quite a few that do, many of them being from the 70s when they were discovering styles and things, very few from the 80s really (metal, new wave, etz, not good except for some exceptions) and even less from the 90s (grunge and britpop are no good), and now 00s there's been a reaction towards the downfall of rock in the past decades (reaction that was started and is leaded by The Strokes).
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Wrong wrong wrong. This is such a terribly misguided opinion. There is nothing which intrinsically sets Classical music above all other types. There is potentially as much creativity and musical talent involved in making a great pop or rap beat as there is in great jazz music or classical music. How can you listen to a song like "Toxic" by Britney Spears and not be impressed. That song is pop perfection, amazing production, catchy as hell. It's so easy to get on your high horse and dismiss this music as baseless, for the masses, whatever. Classical music was the pop music of it's time, made for mass consumption. By your logic then, classical music is not art.[/quote]

Bravo. I agree. I think it is important to recognize that personal tastes are nothing more than that, we cannot discredit other music genres just because we don't like them. Hm

tokio hotel?does anyone think that the singer looks like a girl?! and pretty one!

[quote="dens"]omg!! panic at the disco and green day!!
wao! green day used to be awesome when they were a punk band now they are a "politic" band but the suck!!
in my fav band are:
*the strokes
*interpol
*kings of leon
*velvet underground
*television
*the killers
*the rapture
*minor threat
*the clash
*pearl jam
*nirvana
*the libertines
*gorillaz[/quote]

i like alot of those. mine r interpol...strokes...killers...clash...vampire weekend...daft punk....justice...klaxons...albert hammond jr...coldplay...band of horses....bloc party...and way more that i cant think of

Celtic Thunder.

Tokio hotel

I had that same mindset a while ago that [i]all[/i] rap is bad and "Can't spell crap without rap!" and while I agree, most of rap is bad (especially nowadays) it's true you really can't dismiss a whole genre of music. There are actually a lot of rappers out there with good things to say and it's not all about being rich and bitches and hoes in the clubs (that just happens to be what most rap is in the modern times). But it wasn't always like that. If you go back and look at rap from like the '80s or early '90s it actually had a positive message. A good example would be "Keep Ya Head Up" by 2Pac. It goes completely against the stereotype of rap and actually encourages people to NOT disrespect women. Back when I thought all rap is bad and I heard that song for the first time and actually looked at the lyrics I was extremely surprised and it completely changed my outlook on rap. So now, while I don't listen to rap on a daily basis, I just know that there [i]is[/i] respectable rap out there, it just seems to have died off and now the only thing anyone cares about is a song that sounds good in a club with no regard to intelligent lyrics. So that's the end of my rant. Just a little enlightenment perhaps.

I'm too lazy to read what guille1790 wrote

I don't know if all of them are consider great, because it is a big word, but these are the bands I'm into(they are in age(?)order)

The Who
The Doors
Led Zeppelin
Television
The Clash
Joy Division
The Smiths
Stone roses
Blur
The Strokes
The Libertines
Kings of Leon
The Hives
The Vines
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Mando Diao
Bloc Party
Arctic Monkeys
Kasabian
The Kooks
Razorlight
Dirty Pretty Things
Babyshambles
The View
Klaxons
CSS(I consider them a pop band, but they are great)
Vampire Weekend
Tokyo Police Club
The Wombats
The Virgins
The Courteeners

i rather listen to run dmc that panic at the disco!

i am so proud.

it's been too long tiff.....that was 6 months worth of rants right there.

knowing you.. <3

[quote="Guille1790"]I agree with the OP. You CAN dismiss a whole genre or better said type of music because sometimes the type it is is used bad by nature. For example, with pop music, it is simply made to sell, therefore even if it is not too bad it cannot be really good music. Because 'good' is more than a moral statement or social term to denote value. For me, music is a form of art, and I understand music with the nature of art, that is, expression of sensations (not only emotions, even though people think that) through a medium in order to transmit a message with value, it must have meaning. And art has progress, and is not interested in practical aspects. In this way, the music that is most art is classical music, simply by its nature, as it requiers composers to be extremely creative but also having knowledge and talent in order to transmit so much with music. Then, I would say more or less in order are jazz, blues, singer-songwriters, rock, traditional pop (20s-50s)... Pop is down at the bottom. It is not creative for most of its elements, it is extremely repetitive, not meaningfull and mass-oriented. Rap is also not art because first it is not music, as there is no kind of musical elements (melodies, etz) and no composition, and the nature of its lyrics is pop-liek even if rap people think they are different. Rock is on the edge, really: there are many rock bands that do not make art with their music (red hot chili pepers, green day, metallica, many many). But there are also quite a few that do, many of them being from the 70s when they were discovering styles and things, very few from the 80s really (metal, new wave, etz, not good except for some exceptions) and even less from the 90s (grunge and britpop are no good), and now 00s there's been a reaction towards the downfall of rock in the past decades (reaction that was started and is leaded by The Strokes).
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Wrong wrong wrong. This is such a terribly misguided opinion. There is nothing which intrinsically sets Classical music above all other types. There is potentially as much creativity and musical talent involved in making a great pop or rap beat as there is in great jazz music or classical music. How can you listen to a song like "Toxic" by Britney Spears and not be impressed. That song is pop perfection, amazing production, catchy as hell. It's so easy to get on your high horse and dismiss this music as baseless, for the masses, whatever. Classical music was the pop music of it's time, made for mass consumption. By your logic then, classical music is not art.

Have you eveer listened to a rap song in your life. No music? No melodies? Were you dropped on your head as a child? Or wait, I have it, you're deaf right? That must be it. Have you heard Illmatic? Liquid Swords? Enter the Wu-Tang? The fucking Low End Theory? How you can dismiss these as artless, non-musical entities is beyond me. Get your head out of your ass my friend

It's really not up to a teenager on a message board to tell people that the things they like are stupid.

I totally disagree with you. You can't dismiss a genre of music, people are free to listen to what they want.

PS: You're not the only one who can't be logged in automatically, I've that problem too.

I agree with the OP. You CAN dismiss a whole genre or better said type of music because sometimes the type it is is used bad by nature. For example, with pop music, it is simply made to sell, therefore even if it is not too bad it cannot be really good music. Because 'good' is more than a moral statement or social term to denote value. For me, music is a form of art, and I understand music with the nature of art, that is, expression of sensations (not only emotions, even though people think that) through a medium in order to transmit a message with value, it must have meaning. And art has progress, and is not interested in practical aspects. In this way, the music that is most art is classical music, simply by its nature, as it requiers composers to be extremely creative but also having knowledge and talent in order to transmit so much with music. Then, I would say more or less in order are jazz, blues, singer-songwriters, rock, traditional pop (20s-50s)... Pop is down at the bottom. It is not creative for most of its elements, it is extremely repetitive, not meaningfull and mass-oriented. Rap is also not art because first it is not music, as there is no kind of musical elements (melodies, etz) and no composition, and the nature of its lyrics is pop-liek even if rap people think they are different. Rock is on the edge, really: there are many rock bands that do not make art with their music (red hot chili pepers, green day, metallica, many many). But there are also quite a few that do, many of them being from the 70s when they were discovering styles and things, very few from the 80s really (metal, new wave, etz, not good except for some exceptions) and even less from the 90s (grunge and britpop are no good), and now 00s there's been a reaction towards the downfall of rock in the past decades (reaction that was started and is leaded by The Strokes).

Having said this, I agree with Theresa that Panic at the disco is really rock nor are they great musicians. Adonis mentioned two of the very few pop bands which actually made art, one writing the rulebook of pop and the other one undoing it just after, The Beatles and Velvet Underground. The bands from the past that I like are quite a few, but as they are all well known I will only post the bands that I like from today:

American:
The Strokes
The Killers
Interpol
Kings of Leon
Living Things
We Are Scientists
The Spinto Band
The Raconteurs
Meligrove Band

British:
Franz Ferdinand
Kaiser Chiefs
Keane
Dirty Pretty Things
Arctic Monkeys
The Cribs
Maximo Park
Razorlight
The Kooks

Non-Anglo-Saxon:
The Hives
The (International) Noise Conspiracy
Lodger
Mando Diao
Sigur Ros
Phenix
Nacho Vegas (if you're interested in a good indie rock/singer-songwriter, or want to know a good spanish musician, this is your man)

PS: Even though I click on the box "log me in automatically each visit" every time I log in, it never works. Is it only me? I know there's a message board suggestions section but I'm too lazy.

Do Panic! at the disco even write their own songs??
For me, they are more a boyband then a rockband!

Pavement

Sparklehorse

The Replacements

PJ Harvey

Sonic Youth

Velvet Underground

The Beatles

Rap is great, so is pop when it's on form. You can't dismiss entire genres, jesus.

I think all those bands are amazing, except for Panic! At The Disco. :|

omg!! panic at the disco and green day!!
wao! green day used to be awesome when they were a punk band now they are a "politic" band but the suck!!
in my fav band are:
*the strokes
*interpol
*kings of leon
*velvet underground
*television
*the killers
*the rapture
*minor threat
*the clash
*pearl jam
*nirvana
*the libertines
*gorillaz