LET'S GET POLITICAL HERE

Sep 17

LET'S GET POLITICAL HERE

Posted by ElishaLovesStrokes on

Just wanted to see how many people were planning on voting and for whom... and everyone (over 18 of course) SHOULD vote... so which presidential candidate is your pick...

I pick McCain

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Um, I hate to burst your bubble but that looks like a Holstein cow, which are used for milk, primarily. They're sold for parts and probably ground into gelatin and God knows what nasty other "products". The main cattle used for meat in the US are Brangus (a cross-breed of Angus and Braham cows - yeah, genetic mutation at it's best *eye roll* ), Beefmaster (what a ridiculous name), and the Texas longhorn. Yes, I'm a vegan. And yes I give a damn. So there.

[img]http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-barack-obama-cheezburger.jpg[/img]

ah i love bill.
I SURE HOPE that bradley affect doesn't happen
DAMN BIGOTS!

Bring back Bill Clinton! He was the sex.

-It-

Banana.

It's high time to start another war.

At the risk of sounding like a bandwagon jumping fanatic, the republicans (yoo-hoo Senator McCain and Gov. Palin!) know they're going down. Not because of any one single factor, but when they have these kind of followers, more people are just going to shake their heads at the entire republican committee and bear it in mind when they go to vote. It must suck for them, since they know they're already doomed to lose this election. Sayanora, suckers. See you in the next 4 years!

^^^I'm betting it's a problem for these gents:

WASHINGTON – Law enforcement agents have broken up a plot by two neo-Nazi skinheads to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 88 black people, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives said Monday.

In court records unsealed Monday in U.S. District Court in Jackson, Tenn., federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school in a murder spree that was to begin in Tennessee. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name.

Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of ATF's Nashville field office, said the two men planned to kill 88 people, including 14 African-Americans by beheading. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The men also sought to go on a national killing spree after the Tennessee murders, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

"They said that would be their last, final act — that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama," Cavanaugh said. "They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot[/url]

So, what does everyone think about Obama and the "Bradley Effect"? You know, the racial factor among voters that could potentially make or break the elections? Personally, I think we're ready for a black president, and I hope that the people who truly in their hearts feel the same avoid following the bigots in this country that would choose to keep things the way they are now.

Could the 'Bradley Effect' Hurt Obama?
CNN
(Oct. 14) - Sen. Barack Obama has a sizable lead over Sen. John McCain, polls show, but those numbers could be deceiving if the "Bradley effect" comes into play.
The Bradley effect is named after former Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley, an African-American who ran for California governor in 1982.
Exit polls showed Bradley leading by a wide margin, and the Democrat thought it would be an early election night.
But Bradley and the polls were wrong. He lost to Republican George Deukmejian.
The theory was that polling was wrong because some voters, who did not want to appear bigoted, said they voted for Bradley even though they did not.
"People will usually tell you how they voted after the election, but we found in the Bradley campaign ... that people were actually not telling us who they voted for," said Charles Henry, who researched Bradley's election.
The Bradley effect is also called the "Wilder effect," after Douglas Wilder, Virginia's former governor. He won by just one-tenth of a percent, but as he pointed out to CNN, "people forget -- in the exit polls, I was still double-digits ahead."
According to CNN's latest poll of polls, Obama is leading McCain by 8 percentage points, 50 to 42.
Some analysts say the race could be much closer or even tied if the Bradley effect is factored in. iReport.com: iReporter pleads with voters to 'stop the racism'
"It leaves a question mark over this race, and we won't have the final answer until the votes are counted," said David Gergen, a senior political analyst for CNN.
But there could be an opposite effect, Wilder said.
"There's going to be a reverse Wilder or Bradley effect. ... There are some Republicans who are not going to say out front that they're going to be voting for Obama, but they're going to be, because the economy is what's driving people to consider what's in their best interest," he said.
Some analysts say the Bradley effect can account for 6 percentage points against an African-American candidate.
Michelle Obama told CNN's Larry King that a lot has changed since Bradley lost.
"That was several decades ago, and I think there's been growth and movement," she said. "I just believe that the issues are going to weigh in people's hearts more so as they go into the voting booths this time around."
Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown said last week that he thinks the Bradley effect could cost Obama several battleground states -- and possibly the presidency.
Race "is still a problem in this country," Brown told CNN. "It goes away when there are other troubles that are more challenging, and right now, whether or not we survive in the economy is more challenging. But race could rear its ugly head. I just hope it doesn't before November 4."
In the past 15 years or so, there's been no indication in the polls that the Bradley effect has been a factor in statewide races.
Bill Schneider, CNN's senior political analyst, said that if there is racism in this year's election, it's probably already showing up in the polls. And Keating Holland, CNN's polling director, pointed out another important caveat:
"We've never had a black presidential candidate as a major nominee, so the polls don't have any history at all when it comes to national elections," he said.

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/could-the-bradley-effect-hurt-obam...

Please tell me ^^that^^ was staged!

If the bogus Mrs. Casablancas could vote she would vote for the candidate whose wife has "like the cutest shoes".

[quote]Barack stands a lot on civil rights. But wait, wasn’t that like 50 years ago? What else needs to get done? Only him, and it figures. Can you remember since being alive, the last presidential candidate who had made that an issue in their campaign?[/quote]

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McCain Supporter: "Obama is an Arab"
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YIq5Q15L1o[/url]

McCain Volunteer Sends Out "Obama is an Arab" letters
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOU9xZ4zcss[/url]

[url=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6469/obamamonkeyshirtve7.jpg[/img][/url]

More Racism at a Palin Rally in PA
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUovpF9LWU[/url]

Racist McCain Palin Supporters
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIgv992NZs0[/url]

Obama Hatred At McCain-Palin Rallies: "Terrorist! Kill Him!"
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWahLTdUo[/url]

More Racist Comments On Stage at McCain Rally
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhZEJiu03MU[/url]

Rod Parsley: John McCain's "spiritual guide"
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMUlK41ODeA
[/url]

McCain Pastor Rod Parsley: America Founded to Destroy Islam
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCy2yMarPqI[/url]

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Haha! Oh God, do I ever hope that isn't just a myth. Then we can make Palin an official Russian citizen and she'll be off our backs, at least till she gets paperwork done to be American again. Or if that fails, we can always cut her a nice little floating ice island, then she [i]really[/i] won't be bugging us. At least for a while.

[img]http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-barack-obama-official-act-first-sell-alaska.jpg[/img]

Anyone remember the issue about Palin getting into hot water over firing Walter Monegan (the Public Safety Commissioner in Alaska) for illegitimate reasons? Well guess what: she was found guilty. I don't know how little or how greatly this will impact the elections next month, but I can only hope that people bear it in mind and question if a: they can trust this woman, and b: trust the entire McCain committee, in part because of the way they tried to block subpoenas from reaching the courts, and also because they tried to delay it till after the elections are over. It certainly won't help them, that much is clear.

BREAKING NEWS
msnbc.com news services
updated 9:26 p.m. ET, Fri., Oct. 10, 2008
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday. The politically charged inquiry imperiled her reputation as a reformer on John McCain's Republican ticket.

Investigator Stephen Branchflower, in a report by a bipartisan panel that investigated the matter, found Palin in violation of a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain.

The inquiry looked into her dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who said he lost his job because he resisted pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce with the governor's sister. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.
The panel found that Palin let the family grudge influence her decision-making even if it was not the sole reason Monegan was dismissed. "I feel vindicated," Monegan said. "It sounds like they've validated my belief and opinions. And that tells me I'm not totally out in left field."

Branchflower said Palin violated a statute of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.

Palin and McCain's supporters had hoped the inquiry's finding would be delayed until after the presidential election to spare her any embarrassment and to put aside an enduring distraction as she campaigns as McCain's running mate in an uphill contest against Democrat Barack Obama.

But the panel of lawmakers voted to release the report, although not without dissension.

"I think there are some problems in this report," said Republican state Sen. Gary Stevens, a member of the panel. "I would encourage people to be very cautious, to look at this with a jaundiced eye."

The nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation.

I reccommend all you McCain supporters who even think to trash Obama on the economy go here: http://urbaniak.livejournal.com/ and watch the three videos in the entry titled straight talk.

The rest of you can go watch it for a laugh or a good cry because this man may become our next president (but probably not).

James Urbaniak's blog is just all around wit and fun.

[b]Obama turns tide of Record endorsements[/b]
[url]http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080928/A_OPINION01/809280301[/url]

For the first time in 72 years, The Record is endorsing a Democrat for president.

Franklin D. Roosevelt got our nod in 1936.

The reasons for the endorsement of Barack Obama over John McCain are articulated in the editorial on this page.

The unanimous decision was made by our editorial board, which consists of Publisher Roger W. Coover, Managing Editor Donald W. Blount, Opinion Page Editor Eric Grunder, Human Resources Director Sandi Johnson and me.......

[...] Our presidential endorsements over the years have involved decisions by many different publishers, editors and editorial board members. The Record has changed ownership several times.

Delailah Little, The Record's librarian, diligently combed our archives when I sought to find out our endorsement history. I was stunned to discover the newspaper has endorsed 17 consecutive Republicans - the anomaly being 1992, when The Record chose not to endorse either George H.W. Bush or Bill Clinton.

Barack Obama is our choice for president of the United States.

He has demonstrated time and again he can think on his feet. More importantly, he has demonstrated he will think things through, seek advice and actually listen to it.

Obama is a gifted speaker. But in addition to his smarts and energy, possibly his greatest gift is his ability to inspire.

For eight years, American politics has been marked by smears, fears and greed. For too long, we've practiced partisanship in Washington, not politics. The result is a cynicism every bit as deep as that which infected the nation when Richard Nixon was shamed from office and when Bill Clinton brought shame to the office.

This must end, but John McCain can't do it. He can't inspire, nor can he really break from a past that is breaking this nation.

McCain is an American hero, and he has served this country in the Senate with determination. He has gone against his party, but the fact is his ties to the Bush administration and its policies are deep. Americans know we cannot keep going down this path.

McCain, who has voted consistently for deregulation, started off two weeks ago declaring the U.S. economy fundamentally sound but ended the week sounding like a populist. Who is he really?

He tends to shoot from the hip and go on gut instinct. The nation cannot go through four more years of literally and figuratively shooting now and asking questions later.

But the fact is, we worry he won't have four years. If elected, at 72, he would be the oldest incoming president in U.S. history. He's in good health now, we're told, although he has withheld most of his medical records. That means Gov. Sarah Palin could very well become president.

And that brings us to McCain's most troubling trait: his judgment.

While praiseworthy for putting the first woman on a major-party presidential ticket since Geraldine Ferraro in 1984, his selection of Palin as a running mate was appalling. The first-term governor is clearly not experienced enough to serve as vice president or president if required. Her lack of knowledge is being covered up by keeping her away from questioning reporters and doing interviews only with those considered friendly to her views.

We're not suggesting Obama is without faults. He, like McCain, has demonstrated a marked lack of knowledge in recent days about the financial mess facing this nation.

But unlike McCain, who is trying to position himself as a born-again regulator, Obama would increase the oversight of our markets and demand accountability. He would actually put regulators in the oversight agencies that were systematically dismantled by the Bush administration.

While the blame doesn't all accrue to the Bush administration, the past eight years have been marked by looking the other way. McCain aided and abetted that behavior.

Republicans have tried repeatedly to paint Obama as an elitist. Hardly. He grew up in a single-parent home and, by the sheer force of his desire and cerebral horsepower, ended up at Harvard Law School, where he became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review.

He could have gone for the money. He didn't. He went to Chicago, where he worked to give a voice to those who didn't have one.

That's hardly the mark of an elitist.

He hasn't lost touch with regular people, whereas McCain doesn't even know how many homes he owns.

Obama rose quickly through the Illinois Legislature and propelled himself into the U.S. Senate.

After winning the Democratic nomination against a large and highly experienced field of candidates, Obama picked one of them, Joe Biden, as his running mate. Biden brings to the ticket the vast foreign affairs experience and knowledge that Obama lacks.

Obama has been accused of being an empty suit, all talk and no action. There's no "there" there, his detractors say.

The charge is no more credible than that of him being an elitist.

Obama can inspire, and our nation desperately needs an inspirational leader. And he does not carry the deep scars of Vietnam, as do many of McCain's generation.

He offers hope. A new way of doing business. And a belief that our system of government can be made to work.

He's the clear choice.

[url]http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080928/A_NEWS0801/809280302[/url]

^^^It was a bit of a draw for me, I feel that Obama wasn't hard enough on McCain. Did a great job on drawing parallels between McCain and Bush and got some great soundbites in though.

Who watched the debates?

Thoughts on who won?

Obviously, I say Obama.

[quote="ElishaLovesStrokes"]A lot of kids our age are being too naive and gullible in actually believing in Obama's bullshit and that is why I am experiencing a lot of those our age to be leaning towards him and yes our generation can sway the vote. But almost every middle aged adult and older (think baby boomers) being wiser and more sensible that I have talked to, simply will not vote for Obama. And neither am I. So I highly doubt he will be our next president.... hate to break it to you guys[/quote]

I hate to break it to you, but the only person that I know who is considering voting for McCain/Palin is my mother, and that's only because she is merely uninformed. She has been listening to me make comparisons between both camps lately, so I actually feel that things might be on the right track. Being young and naive can be blamed for nearly anything in this world, so it's kinda stupid how you link that to this election. Also, McCain does have many similarities to Bush -- which is why people are against him. Obviously someone who's going to vote for him isn't going to admit that.

By the way, thanks for voting and supporting George Bush.

Should I associate you with the problems we're dealing with?

[quote="ElishaLovesStrokes"]is this just too coincidental or is it just me.....

Osama Bin Laden=

Obama Biden

great just more terrorism[/quote]

Stupid and nonsensical.

[quote="ElishaLovesStrokes"]Sorry but I'm not racist, its just an observation, cmon you people, just based on the names, thats it, it isnt very obvious to anybody, its basically saying lets elect Adolf Stalin, thats all, I didnt mean to offend anyone, but its just all too familiar and quite frighteningly. But MF, you try but there can be no love unfortunately. [/quote]

That is certainly one way to admit that you're (a) stupid, (b) racist, (c) stupid and racist

Saying it's an "observation" is merely proving the point that others have made.

An observation is outside of what IS.

Understand?

So if you are racist, then one may observe that you are so.

Yes?

If you weren't racist, one would not be able to observe so.

[quote]Barack stands a lot on civil rights. But wait, wasn’t that like 50 years ago? What else needs to get done? Only him, and it figures. Can you remember since being alive, the last presidential candidate who had made that an issue in their campaign?[/quote]

Plenty can be done. On average white males make more money that minority males and females (of all races) for the same jobs. As a black woman (with an islamic background and arabic name on top of that) I experience racism every other day. I know damn well what it looks like...it doesn't always involve a hooded southerners or skinheads with swastika tats.

I recommend you never wake up from your white-bread never-never land, the real world will eat you alive.

From Jet magazine (i cant find the original link):
[url]http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_15_103/ai_100109094[/url]
White men still earn more money than Blacks: report
Blacks and other minorities made significant gains in education and income during the past decade, but White men still make the most money, government data show.

On average, a White man with a college diploma earned about $65,000 in 2001 while Black and Hispanic men with college degrees earned 30 percent less. White women who are college graduates made about 40 percent less than White men, according to the Census Bureau.

And while almost half of Asians age 25 and older have graduated from college--nearly twice the rate of Whites--Asians still earned about 8 percent less than Whites.

Differences in income between White men and minorities were slightly lower on other educational levels. Black men with high school diplomas earned about 25 percent less than similarly educated Whites, and Black men with master's degrees earned 20 percent less than their White counterparts.

The figures come from the Census Bureau's annual look at educational achievement in America, culled from a March 2002 survey. While gaps exist, the bureau found record high educational levels for every group and the nation overall.

COPYRIGHT 2003 Johnson Publishing Co.

[quote="ElishaLovesStrokes"][quote="Max Fischer"][quote] LMFAO You have to be an aliases.. I fear for humanity if more than one person can be this stupid. I'm almost positive The Strokes would appreciate some negative feedback instead of being praised non-stop by mindless zombies.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

I supported the war, at first, who didn’t? quote]

uh I didn't support the war at first, Obama didn't support the war at first, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T SUPPORT THE WAR AT FIRST... and you know why? Because we went after THE WRONG PEOPLE over A LIE. There were no WMD's, and even if there were, it was Osama who was responsible for 9/11, not Hussein. We took our troops away from the hunt for the man who was behind the attacks to get some oil and revenge.

I didn't read the rest of what you wrote so I can not comment on it.

This current financial situation was caused by deregulation. That's the republican M.O... Back off and let business do what the fuck they want. Bush blamed everyone for the financial collapse and never accepted any responsibility himself. It's the governments responsibility to step in at the first sign of trouble. And the first signs began over 2 years ago.
Anyway... McCain also backs deregulation so if he wins this elections he's going to sink us deeper into debt.
This "rich welfare" plan means a reduction in funding to important things like education, infrastructure and health care. There's no way around this now. We've got to fix the mess that the republicans got us into, but it's critical that we stop this vicious cycle.
On a side note... Katie Couric's interview with Sarah Palin... WTF? She's going to be the next in line to run this country behind a 72 year old man? We're fucked if McCain wins no matter how you look at it.

dude puppy, i am freaking out about the stock market situation
and yes i have had thoughts of a second great depression
as if the economy wasn't bad enough!
Well lets look at it this way, when youre at the lowest point you could go, the economy has nowhere to go then but up!
................... :roll:
:cry:

When even Bill O' Fucking Reilly says that the state of the economy is not Clintons fault but Bush's you know somethings up

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/pvd244055131.html

If he didn't use enough goats blood and hide a black walnut under oak leaves she is so fucked:
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/palin-once-blessed-against-witchcr...

[quote="ElishaLovesStrokes"]

Barack stands a lot on civil rights. But wait, wasn’t that like 50 years ago? What else needs to get done? Only him, and it figures. Can you remember since being alive, the last presidential candidate who had made that an issue in their campaign? Nope, neither can I because it’s been obsolete for awhile now. He calls for equal rights on voting and literacy. Seriously, am I missing something here? He says, “We must build a world free of unnecessary barriers and stereotypes.... policies must be developed, attitudes must be shaped, and new buildings and organizations must be designed.” Yeah, that’ll be nice but it’ll never happen. And how much for these new building, and for what exactly….

[/quote]

You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a woman in America and yet you wonder what civil platforms are left. I'm sure you are the only female in this country who makes as much money as her male counterpart in the same occupation, then?

[quote="ElishaLovesStrokes"][quote="Max Fischer"][quote]
The remark I had made does not insinuate that I am a racist. I said it, and I don’t regret it, so deal with it. And elledriver, I did not say that you were a terrorist, and that’s a pretty idiotic presumption to make about yourself when it had nothing to do with you personally or at all. [/quote][/quote][/quote]

it's much more idiotic to presume that just because someone's name rhymes with Osama then they could potentially have terrorist tendencies.

[quote="Max Fischer"][quote] LMFAO You have to be an aliases.. I fear for humanity if more than one person can be this stupid. I'm almost positive The Strokes would appreciate some negative feedback instead of being praised non-stop by mindless zombies.[/quote][/quote]

quite funny but can we really stop with all of this outing nonsense. What happened to my poor political thread here? Can we start talking about politics again please? And no more Nic Cage or Wicker Man, no more aliases, and definitely no more bashing a great album such as FIOE.

The remark I had made does not insinuate that I am a racist. I said it, and I don’t regret it, so deal with it. And elledriver, I did not say that you were a terrorist, and that’s a pretty idiotic presumption to make about yourself when it had nothing to do with you personally or at all. Not everything involves you, just get over it.

And of course, I supported Bush in 2002, just a year after 9/11. Our country did not need any more instability than it already had. I supported the war, at first, who didn’t? We all wanted to go after them and seek justice after what they did and what had happened. So, it only made sense to go to war. And war is not just a wham, bam, thank you ma’am kind of thing. It takes manpower, money, and time. And it will also take manpower, money, and time to get out of it, in spite of who wins this election. So don’t think it will be that easy for Obama to end it.

But Bush didn’t plan on 9/ll, it just happened and he dealt with it. He did not hurt the economy for what he had to do for our country. Even though he could have saved our government some money by making wiser decisions, our country’s deficit would be almost the same regardless. If anything the Clinton administration hurt our country more by not doing what they should have done to prevent this from all happening when they knew about it back then. And Barack is the same way especially with our economy today.

Back in February, Hillary attacked Obama for refusing to reaffirm his commitment to accept public financing in the general election. While McCain have been telling audiences since last year that he would honor his pledge to accept public financing as a candidate and hoped his opponent would do the same. But Barack recently stated that the American people only care about the economy and healthcare as their main issues.

And what did he do, Obama is now all for backing the economy but earlier in the year he publicly didn’t. All of a sudden he cares, right, bullshit. How fake is that? He’s just looking for votes. While on the other hand John McCain's strategy as always included taking near-term actions to provide immediate help to families while also taking long-term steps to secure America's economic prosperity and leadership in the world. The economy is a big issue for me right now being a recent college grad and financial crisis we are in at that moment.

I believe more in McCain getting the job done rather than his opponent. McCain has always been more about defining what our country needs most by making more specific goals. He focuses on the important and makes them distinct, breaking them down to make their achievements more attainable. While Obama is all scatterbrained, fragmented, and sporadic with so many different ideas that he is just not being realistic. Nothing will happen or be any different that way unless there’s a clear path that leads to the main purpose. He is just way overly too excited on making some ‘change’ that he honestly will not know what to do once in office, if ever elected. Yeah, good fucking luck with that.

John McCain’s platform is ‘country first with reform, prosperity, and peace’ in which I deeply believe in and know our country desperately needs. His main issues are energy, economy and national security. These issues matter the most to me along with healthcare, immigration and education which are also right under his top three. With energy he has the Lexington Project which is for Americans who asserted their independence once before against foreign powers so we don’t need to depend on anyone else. With national security, McCain has the necessary vision and unrivaled experience to command the United States armed forces and Obama simply cannot. What does Barack know about defense? With healthcare he plans to bring costs under control with large pharmaceutical companies. And immigration is an important one for me, and McCain wants to do nothing but finally secure our national borders. Barack feels as if secure borders divide the nation. What a load of shit, seriously. If you want to come into our country, please legally do so. If not, and you want to jump over our fences, illegally, and steal our own citizens’ jobs, healthcare, and housing, then that is not all right with me and shouldn’t be alright with anyone else. We need to help our own and a lot of Americans don’t even have these necessities. This only hurts our economy even more.

Barack stands a lot on civil rights. But wait, wasn’t that like 50 years ago? What else needs to get done? Only him, and it figures. Can you remember since being alive, the last presidential candidate who had made that an issue in their campaign? Nope, neither can I because it’s been obsolete for awhile now. He calls for equal rights on voting and literacy. Seriously, am I missing something here? He says, “We must build a world free of unnecessary barriers and stereotypes.... policies must be developed, attitudes must be shaped, and new buildings and organizations must be designed.” Yeah, that’ll be nice but it’ll never happen. And how much for these new building, and for what exactly….

Another one of Obama’s issues is that he has concerns for our rural farmers. Who are you kidding? Since when does he care about the farming communities? Since they are just more votes for him. Barack has mainly worked in the city of Chicago. He cares more for urban families and developments than the farmers. It is even said that he ran with the corrupt and dirty money from the politics and gangs in the inner city of Chicago.

I also don't like McCain's campaign that he running but he is the best to lead our country. And Obama is not all that innocent either with his smear tactics months earlier and also when he was running against Hillary. Obama is making a mistake by airing a late-inning attack on McCain's age and computer illiteracy. Two strategists who have worked on Reagan's campaign said Obama’s ads make the Democrat appear petty and vengeful. And they said that by mocking McCain's age and lack of computer knowledge, it has the potential of offending elderly voters, a key voting block in battleground states like Florida.

But am I the only republican on this board? I highly don’t think so. Is there nobody else or is everybody just do not have the balls to go against the rest of the sheep. Bahhh. Wait, so who was it that started that in support Sarah Palin thread, where are you… So this is what I think, its just to let you all know that I will not be going blindly into the polls, ahem, ya fucking jerks….

So you think we should vote Obama because you Europeans fancy him, eh? Sorry reason, friend. Very sorry indeed. I'm voting for him but not because he won the popularity contest on your side of the Atlantic.

As an Englishman I don't know the ins and outs of the American political system or the whole story of both Obama and McCain but please Americans....vote for Obama!

Everyone in Europe loves him! It's crazy....but still please vote Obama

Vote For Paris!!!!!!!!!!!
[img]http://www.eurielec.etsit.upm.es/~bisho/blog_files/vote_or_die.jpg[/img]

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b22e6d01b2

it was because I had those periods attached to the edn of it... I fixed it, though.

That link doesn't work, Dirty Puppy. Here's another one:

http://news.aol.com/article/mccain-to-halt-campaign-due-to-economy/17288...

Clever (read: underhanded) of McCain to pretend like he isn't doing this for political reasons, even during a time of crisis. And yet he goes to Washington? Yeah, because politics aren't discussed there day in and day out. I swear, the more I read about him, the more I hope he loses. Our future as a nation depends on it. He's not even in office and look at the messes he's making. God help us if he wins.

So is anyone else kind of freaking out about the fact that the US is days away from possibly entering a second great depression.

McCain is trying to postpone the foreign policy debate on Friday, Obama disagrees. Anyone have an opinion on this?

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/mccain_postpone_... ... if you would like to get educated before before you speak.

[img]http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/funny-pictures-your-cat-is-not-really-interested-in-what-you-are-saying.jpg[/img]

[quote="Max Fischer"]Celtic, once again, speaking for a supposed group of people.. do you not see the ridiculousness of that?

"I am not an alias nor do I possess an alias, yet I can and will speak for all these usernames."

[/quote]

That doesn't make any sense as a criticism. I'm vouching for them because I know they're real. I don't even really like half of them, but I know who they are. Red Lipgloss works at a Clinique counter. dirty puppy goes to school in fucking Toledo. I go to school on the east coast. If these were all aliases, they'd be the worst, most fucking boring aliases ever.

[quote="Celtic Thunder"] I'm vouching for the fact that these people are not personas created for the sole reason of ganging up on you.
[quote="Max Fischer"]Celtic, once again, speaking for a supposed group of people
[/quote][/quote]

Max.... Celtic's right
there are other people in this world besides you.
calm the fuck down

[quote="elledriver"][quote="Max Fischer"]Stop creating aliases to control a message board.. Get a life!

You know how you can tell the aliases? They all have really pointless huge signature pictures and laugh at each others lame a$$ jokes and say how much they love each other every posts. Team defect. LOL[/quote]

take your own advice "coxcommunications"[/quote]

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? oh man what a lame ass.

[quote="Max Fischer"]Stop creating aliases to control a message board.. Get a life!

You know how you can tell the aliases? They all have really pointless huge signature pictures and laugh at each others lame a$$ jokes and say how much they love each other every posts. Team defect. LOL[/quote]

take your own advice "coxcommunications"

Mccain is a Nazi.

[u]Obama[/u] is ma homieGdawg.
:D

Celtic, once again, speaking for a supposed group of people.. do you not see the ridiculousness of that?

"I am not an alias nor do I possess an alias, yet I can and will speak for all these usernames."

But the point is moot, because whether or not these names are aliases, they are still blindly following the other "old timers" without even knowing what the argument is about.

And if defending my own freedom of speech is considered "catering to my own personal tastes".... it illustrates what the problem here is... just because you people have been on this board for awhile it doesn't give you the right to think you know how it should be operated or that nuyour opinion is any more valid than anyone else..

What we have here is a town without a law system, so it has become Lord of The Flies..

Put down your spears kids..

Max Fischer is a newcomer to the board. That is not a bad thing in and of itself, but it's fucking annoying when the forum has been operating the same way for nearly a decade and then someone new comes in and decides it would be better if it catered to his specific tastes. Most of the people here have been posting under these names for years, Max. I've been posting here under various names since before Is This It came out. I'm not playing a cred game with you; I'm vouching for the fact that these people are not personas created for the sole reason of ganging up on you.

Here's my example of that last bit:

Sarah Palin:

[img]http://crucialtaunt.com/politics/images/SarahPalin380tall.jpg[/img]

Oompa Loompa:

[img]http://manolomen.com/images/oompa%20loompa.JPG[/img]
[i]Real[/i] big difference. Not.

Eh. Well, at least he's trying to quit. Then again the article was published in February '08, and it's been nearly 6 months since then, which is sufficient time for people to at least begin to break less than becoming habits. In this case, to keep Obama from smelling like an ashtray and to keep Palin from looking like an Oompa Loompa. In any case, at least they'll both avoid cancer, partially.

You know how much smokers say they are going to quit smoking? :lol:

I like how he said he was sneaking cigarettes before...

[quote="strokesnerd79"]So do you guys still need / want further proof that Sarah Palin is a moron?

http://www.theinsider.com/news/1194448_Sarah_Palin_s_Home_Installed_Tann...

Anyone that willingly increases their risk of developing melanoma or any kind of (at least partially) preventable, life-threatening cancers / diseases instantly qualifies as an idiot, at least to me.[/quote]

Isn't Obama a smoker? :lol:

So do you guys still need / want further proof that Sarah Palin is a moron?

http://www.theinsider.com/news/1194448_Sarah_Palin_s_Home_Installed_Tann...

Anyone that willingly increases their risk of developing melanoma or any kind of (at least partially) preventable, life-threatening cancers / diseases instantly qualifies as an idiot, at least to me.