Symmetry, the Sick Six and the playlist

Nov 04

Symmetry, the Sick Six and the playlist

Posted by Max Fischer on

In another thread I pointed out the symmetry of the band -- the Sick Six

If you look at the band in the Tonight Show video where Jules played 11th Dimension you see the band divided and perfectly symmetrical...

2 guitars
2 organ stations
2 drumkits

the only thing there not in twos is the singer.. but if you think about it in Julian's songs.. especially 11th dimension it's as if Julian is having a conversation with himself.. so there are really two singers as well.. especially because Julian uses a weird voice effect in part of the song..

another symmetry tie in.. if you put the Phrazes album up on iTunes with all the all the b-sides and everything. there are 12 songs and the album is 51 minutes long..

if you look at 1251 it is symmetrical.. if you flip it upside down and backwards it says the same thing...1251

More symmetry..

if you look at the song in Phrazes on a horizontal plane there is also symmetry..

Out of the Blue, L&R, 11th Dimension, 4 chords, Ludlow st, River of Brakelights, Glass, Tourist

So look at the first 2 songs.. they matchup with the last 2 songs stylistically.. and 11th dimension matches up with River of brakelights stylistically.. and 4 chords and matches up with Ludlow in that they are both so weird and old style...

Maybe these all mirror each other in their eras?

I noticed that some of the lyrics from Brakelights also matchup with lyrics from 11th Dimension.. I wonder if the mirror songs all match-up with each other lyrically?

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Also, I find it funny that Julian's album is released on Cult Records. Irony, much?

Hey guys. Went to Wiz Kid MGMT yesterday. It was cool. Anyway, Max, you're an idiot.

[quote="Corybaby28"][quote="newtalent03"]I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but back to the actual comment of max. You said the whole symmetry thing. Well the 12 51 thing is wrong.
There is 8 regular songs and 3 b-sides. 8 + 3 = 11. Anyways everything that you post turns into a fight. Im not sure why, but you should think
things through a little better before you post them. Also in 11th dimension on Conan the female percussionist is the second vocalist. At the end
of the song she sings with julian so there is two singers and its not julian singing back to himself or whatever you said. I think that your right in
saying that julian is a musical genius. I also do think that you take a bit far sometimes. I think that Phrazes for the Young is a great album, but
I think you are reading into it a bit to much. I also think that knowing you is a bit right in saying sometimes you should just step back and look at
what your saying. I think that if julian read these boards he would be worried about you skinning him and wearing him as suit. Anyways just chill
out man and im sure that you will see no one is out to get you.[/quote]

newtalent03 = Julian Casablancas

no doubt ;)[/quote]

I am sure that's what you are presenting yourselves as -- Julian - and that is why he should be worried about you cult members skinning him...

Julian seems to promote people interpreting his music in their own ways.. the last thing he would probably do is discourage people from thinking about the meanings of his songs. He obviously put a lot of thought into things.. that 12:51 deal proves that...

Only left brain cult member losers are afraid of ideas..

double post

[quote="newtalent03"]I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but back to the actual comment of max. You said the whole symmetry thing. Well the 12 51 thing is wrong.
There is 8 regular songs and 3 b-sides. 8 + 3 = 11. Anyways everything that you post turns into a fight. Im not sure why, but you should think
things through a little better before you post them. Also in 11th dimension on Conan the female percussionist is the second vocalist. At the end
of the song she sings with julian so there is two singers and its not julian singing back to himself or whatever you said. I think that your right in
saying that julian is a musical genius. I also do think that you take a bit far sometimes. I think that Phrazes for the Young is a great album, but
I think you are reading into it a bit to much. I also think that knowing you is a bit right in saying sometimes you should just step back and look at
what your saying. I think that if julian read these boards he would be worried about you skinning him and wearing him as suit. Anyways just chill
out man and im sure that you will see no one is out to get you.[/quote]

newtalent03 = Julian Casablancas

no doubt ;)

[quote]That's my opinion? Hmm? You mean it's a fact. Look at the top of your screen. It should say 'forums.THESTROKES.com,' not 'forums.JULIANCASABLANCAS.com.'[/quote]

What you are saying is that none of the Strokes can be criticized more than the others.. and none can be praised more than the others....... that's a CULT!

And you are also saying that YOU know what is acceptable behavior or not.. that's YOUR ego.. YOU are a control freak and a psycho.. LOL You need HELP!

[quote="Max Fischer"][quote]Why? Because this is a forum for THE STROKES. Remember THE STROKES? Without THE STROKES, Julian would be nothing. If you want to talk about JULIAN CASABLANCAS, go to a JULIAN CASABLANCAS forum. Not a STROKES forum. See the difference?[/quote]

That's your opinion.. fine.. believe what you want.. I am not trying to control you.. I am not harassing you.. YOU are harassing ME because of my opinion.[/quote]

That's my opinion? Hmm? You mean it's a fact. Look at the top of your screen. It should say 'forums.THESTROKES.com,' not 'forums.JULIANCASABLANCAS.com.'

[quote]Why? Because this is a forum for THE STROKES. Remember THE STROKES? Without THE STROKES, Julian would be nothing. If you want to talk about JULIAN CASABLANCAS, go to a JULIAN CASABLANCAS forum. Not a STROKES forum. See the difference?[/quote]

That's your opinion.. fine.. believe what you want.. I am not trying to control you.. I am not harassing you.. YOU are harassing ME because of my opinion.

[quote="Max Fischer"][quote]And on a FAN site, I expect to see FANS of the entire BAND. Not just the singer.[/quote]

Why? Julian was responsible for far and away their best work.. who are you to say who deserves credit? Who put you in charge? lol Where do you get the ego...?[/quote]

Why? Because this is a forum for THE STROKES. Remember THE STROKES? Without THE STROKES, Julian would be nothing. If you want to talk about JULIAN CASABLANCAS, go to a JULIAN CASABLANCAS forum. Not a STROKES forum. See the difference?

Also, you're extreeeemmly arrogant. Just look at what you're saying.

I'm annoying because I am right.. and you don't want to admit it. If I wasn't you wouldn't give a shit what I say... you are a cult member in denial about the truth...

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by Max Fischer on Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:35 am

Aaaaaaaaaaaaalllsooo, when did I declare my opposition to free speech?

but you bring it upon yourself with your constant barrage of Julian-lust.

why do you care if I have Julian lust? What the fuck do you expect on a fan site? Why are you trying to control me?

jack white has a bigger penissss tho :D :D :D :D :D
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I disagree. You're just really fucking annoying.

[quote]And on a FAN site, I expect to see FANS of the entire BAND. Not just the singer.[/quote]

Why? Julian was responsible for far and away their best work.. who are you to say who deserves credit? Who put you in charge? lol Where do you get the ego...?

[quote]when did I declare my opposition to free speech?[/quote]

By harassing me you are condemning free speech... are you stupid or something? LOL

Why are you talking to me? Because you re trying to control me.. that is not conducive to free speech... the fact you are so afraid of what I have to say says why you are afraid of free speech..

And on a FAN site, I expect to see FANS of the entire BAND. Not just the singer.

You never answered my first question, Max.

[quote]Aaaaaaaaaaaaalllsooo, when did I declare my opposition to free speech?[/quote]

[quote]but you bring it upon yourself with your constant barrage of Julian-lust. [/quote]

why do you care if I have Julian lust? What the fuck do you expect on a fan site? Why are you trying to control me?

Get a life..

I am doing what makes me happy.. that it makes you happy to trash me shows you have some serious issues...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaalllsooo, when did I declare my opposition to free speech? Right, I didn't. You are clearly delusional. You seem to think that everyone is out to get you, or no wait, I'm sorry, we're all the same person, aren't we? We're just aliases of each other! Anyway, so you seem to think that I'M out to get you... Which isn't entirely untrue, but you bring it upon yourself with your constant barrage of Julian-lust.

Okay. And, this is what I'm talking about. You will stop at nothing to protect Julian! I bet, right now, you're sitting at your computer, just SEETHING with anger at what I just said. You might even be crying, who knows. I know I would be if I was you.

[quote]The Strokes could just as easily kick Julian out[/quote]

Tease!

Alright then. How does this sound?

Julian Casablancas is a worthless piece of shit. He's just a stuck-up rich kid who thinks he's edgy because he wears tight pants and smokes. He is the least contributive member of The Strokes, and frankly, I think they'd be better off without him. His solo career is complete shit, as it should be. The Strokes could just as easily kick Julian out, and let Albert sing, and I think that would be a step in the right direction. It's because of him that the fourth record is being delayed.

What do you have to say to that?

Oh, I almost forgot, LOL.

See.. that's it.. you are against freedom of speech.. that makes you a cult member...

So you claim I am all over Julian's jock yet you are defending the Strokes bandmates like they are your family.. then you call me crazy.. LOL You are obviously far more obsessed with them than I am with Julian.. people can say negative shit about Julian I don't give a rat's ass.

Really Fischer? "You guys are both my bitches.."? Is that the best you can do? For someone as creative and right-brained as you, I'd have expected more. And, no, you haven't done anything to me. Except talk shit about the members of my favorite band, proclaim yourself to be all-knowing, and make all us Strokes fans look like assholes.

You guys are both my bitches.. if you weren't you wouldn't be all over my jock like you re right now.. just think about it.. WTF have I ever done to you? Nothing... that says it all right there... I have obviously made you look stupid in the past and you are STILL bitter aobut it.. otherwise why would you even bother with me? I don't see you bothering with all the people on here that actually say crazy shit.. hmmmm why i that? LOL

Oh my god, ever since I realized that there is absolutely NO discussion of the Strokes on here, seeing Mister Fischer rant on and on about some random thought is nintey-nine percent of why I come on here.

You're wasting your time.

Unless you're like me and actually enjoy making him say stupid things again and again and again.

In which case, carry on.

[quote="Max Fischer"]You are the one telling me how to live my life and critiquing my life and how I live it then you claim I have an ego... are you fucking retarded or just a huge Ahole? Oh wait.. I know what it is.. you are jealous... that;s the only real possiblity. you wish you were creative.. then you wouldn't have to waste your time running marathons.. lol[/quote]

Exactly! I waste my time running marathons to raise money for things like AIDS, cancer, and other things that simply don't matter! Lord knows there's so many more important things we could be using our time for, like wanking to posters of Julian Casablancas!

Guess what? I've got creativity out my ass. What have you done that's creative, Max? Hmm? Why don't you post one of your poems here and just show us the brilliance that radiates from your every pore?

You are the one telling me how to live my life and critiquing my life and how I live it then you claim I have an ego... are you fucking retarded or just a huge Ahole? Oh wait.. I know what it is.. you are jealous... that;s the only real possiblity. you wish you were creative.. then you wouldn't have to waste your time running marathons.. lol

Hmm. You have a point. I mean, you're not crazy. So, all the rest of us must be crazy! It all makes sense now! You really are the only person who knows anything in the entire world! Wow. I'm glad I've seen the light. Julian really IS the most amazing person that ever existed. And Albert totally doesn't have the best solo career of any of the Strokes! Why don't you run for president, Max? With all your amazing ideas, you'd totally win! You'd get us out of this recession, and out of the war; you'd fix everything! You know, Julian isn't the greatest person to ever live, it's YOU! You, Max! You!

Jesus. Christ. I'm a loser? Max, man, listen. I play in a band. I SING in a band. I can plays drums, bass, piano, and guitar. I run marathons. I write poetry.

And, most important of all, I don't have a raging fetish for the singer of a rock band.

So you tell me to shut the fuck up after you just told me how to live my life.. now you are telling em what this site is and isn't for.. see.. more left brain control bullshit.. left brain people are control freaks afraid of ideas.. you are clearly a left brain loser..

Fischer, unless you have a degree in diagnosing people over the internet, I would advise you to shut the fuck up. Do you realize how absolutely pompous you sound? You've never even met me, and yet you feel you can tell me how mentally superior you are to me? Seriously, stop fucking with everyone, and just sit back, and enjoy the music. Which is why we're all here, isn't it? To discuss how perfect the Strokes are? I know that's why I'm here...

You may be slightly right brain dominant but you are likely still bound by left brain influence as well.. I am EXTREMELY right brain dominant.. this allows me to see patterns others don't or long before they do.. it also allows me to think for myself rather than rely on others to think for me.. and it makes me highly highly intuitive.. am I always right? No.. but the point is I see alternatives others don't.. this is the essence of creativity.. it;s like when Julian said he can "track down any crazy idea"... left brain people won't allow themselves to even consider those "crazy ideas" to track down..

Also, right brain people are very passionate. left brain people lack passion because they are too bound by logic... which makes them boring.. uncreative.. rigid.. afraid to go to extremes...

Guess what...

...

...

...I'M A RIGHT BRAIN TOO. WOAH. Being a right brain does not mean spending your day thinking up insane theories about the singer of a rock band. I'm sure we're only a little bit from this: "Who do you think is more important in the scope of human history: Jesus Christ or Julian Casablancas?" Seriously, man. Also, seeing as how it's almost three o'clock on a weekday, you should probably get back to work in whatever little office you sit and think about Julian in.

Being led by logic and reason is also what prevents left brain people from understanding things that can't be explained by logic and knowledge.. this is why Einstein surpassed all the scientists of his day. Einstein was EXTREMELY right brained. He used intuition -- instinct to lead him to places other scientists bound by "logic" and knowledge couldn't reach. Because their knowledge was flawed and they refused to acknowledge that.

That is the error of left brain people... they will never admit to themselves that their knowledge is possibly flawed. This is an actual fact.. left brain people will lie to themselves to explain things rather than accept the world as it really is if it means they have to admit they don't understand it... this is not a joke.. or an exaggeration. This is based off real scientific study and results.

[quote="Max Fischer"]You just illustrated your dooshiness.. and your analness.. all in one..

You are such a left-brain twat.. that is probably why we go together like oil and water.. I am extreme right brain.. go look that up and give me a report..[/quote]

Max...I believe that this http://painting.about.com/library/blpaint/blrightbraintable.htm will show you how correct you really are. You are clearly not a left-brain, since left-brains are led by logic and reason. Also, you obviously have trouble finding words to express yourself, since all of what you say is complete bullshit.

Thank you for your time.

[quote]I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but back to the actual comment of max. You said the whole symmetry thing. Well the 12 51 thing is wrong.
There is 8 regular songs and 3 b-sides. 8 + 3 = 11. Anyways everything that you post turns into a fight. Im not sure why, but you should think[/quote]

I actually screwed that up.. but if you had just asked me about it instead of being a doosh I wouldn't have to school you like this.. when you buy the entire album on iTunes. which you obviously haven't.. you get 12 items - 11 songs and the digital booklet - so that is 12 items and the lengtH of the album is 51 minutes - 12:51... please think before you speak. Obviously JuliAn put much more thought in this album than your feeble mind is CAPABLE OF GENERATING.

[quote]things through a little better before you post them. Also in 11th dimension on Conan the female percussionist is the second vocalist. At the end
of the song she sings with julian so there is two singers and its not julian singing back to himself or whatever you said.[/quote]

Yes.. but the backup singer isn't singing through the whole song... and also.. that doesn't satisfy the visual component of the symmetry... because if you think about it.. the keyboardist sometimes play base and guitars etc.. they don't just play keyboards or percussion etc. It's semantics.

[quote]I think that your right in
saying that julian is a musical genius. I also do think that you take a bit far sometimes.[/quote]

That's fine.. but who says you are right? Who made you god? LOL.. Fucking dumbass... LOL Where do you get the ego to tell everyone what is or isn't right and what they should or should not think? LOL GEt over yourself..

[quote]I think that Phrazes for the Young is a great album, but
I think you are reading into it a bit to much.[/quote]

Knowing You said the exact same thing.. coincidence? He also has the exact same attitude that he thinks his opinion matters more than anyone elses...

[quote]I also think that knowing you is a bit right in saying sometimes you should just step back and look at
what your saying.[/quote]

LOL Surprise surprise... HEHEHEEH I bet you do agree with Knowing You.. because you are him..

[quote]I think that if julian read these boards he would be worried about you skinning him and wearing him as suit. Anyways just chill
out man and im sure that you will see no one is out to get you.[/quote]

I think Julian would be much more worried about the cult members on this board that use dozens of aliases to try to control it as if their opinion matters more than anyone else's.. those people are the real nutjobs.. I guarantee you Jules doesn't follow along with the crowd like the cult members on this board...

[quote="knowing you"]I don't really see how I'm selling out?

And I'm well aware Julian is the driving force behind the Strokes. I just don't think that makes him a demi-God, which you evidently do[/quote]

idk man, you lost me when you scored [i]and[/i] stared in that Swiffer commercial. Look, I know it's easy money and all but have some pride man!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but back to the actual comment of max. You said the whole symmetry thing. Well the 12 51 thing is wrong.
There is 8 regular songs and 3 b-sides. 8 + 3 = 11. Anyways everything that you post turns into a fight. Im not sure why, but you should think
things through a little better before you post them. Also in 11th dimension on Conan the female percussionist is the second vocalist. At the end
of the song she sings with julian so there is two singers and its not julian singing back to himself or whatever you said. I think that your right in
saying that julian is a musical genius. I also do think that you take a bit far sometimes. I think that Phrazes for the Young is a great album, but
I think you are reading into it a bit to much. I also think that knowing you is a bit right in saying sometimes you should just step back and look at
what your saying. I think that if julian read these boards he would be worried about you skinning him and wearing him as suit. Anyways just chill
out man and im sure that you will see no one is out to get you.

get a room...

And I'm not leaving.. so suck it.

Why don't you go to that other board with the rest of the cult members.. they all think the same there too.. you'd love it..

Oh I know exactly what you said.

I just don't care.

Wow.. you really are obtuse.. I said you were a groupie.. that ACTED like a gay nazi.. LOL

i'm a gay jewish nazi!

This has gone way beyond a farce.

It doesn't matter if he actually was or not.. that is semantics.. all that matters is whether he THOUGHT he was... just like the gaybasher wrongly thinking he is gay... once again.. Knowing You completely missing the fucking forest for the trees..

Hitler's mother was part Jewish.. it's like you slamming me for gushing about Julian when you are as big a groupie as anyone.. you are just in the closet and in denial..

SORT THAT SHIT OUT..

I'm like Hitler!

You're hideously misinformed. Hitler was never a Jew. Sort that shit out.

What is wrong with me thinking Julian is a demigod?/ Because you don't get it? If you don't recognize it it can't be true? Why doe sit shock you that someone on a Strokes message board would think Julian was a demigod? LOL Doe sit bother you that someone enjoys the Strokes more than yourself... I don't understand your deal.. do you?

Oh wait.. never mind.. I remember what it was.. when I express my admiration for Julian it reminds you of what a groupie you are... but you can't stand to think of yourself as a groupie.. you are like Hitler who exterminated Jews and was a Jew himself... you are like a gay basher that has homosexual fantasies and can't deal with it... now I remember your major malfunction.. I hope this helps you in some way.. my observations.. and analysis'

I don't really see how I'm selling out?

And I'm well aware Julian is the driving force behind the Strokes. I just don't think that makes him a demi-God, which you evidently do

Oh that's right.. they were all equals.. lol.. I forgot your socialistic slant.. No one can be greater than another.. you wish that was the case.. then it would mean it's not your lack of talent that forces you to not be a musician and have to sell out instead...