I like Albert's solo stuff better than Julian's

Nov 04

I like Albert's solo stuff better than Julian's

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[quote="knowing you"]Julian circa 2002 is still pretty much everything i'll ever want to be...ever.[/quote]
idk, i just wanna be spock.

In Transit is clearly the best thing Albert ever did.. then he fucked it up when he tried to use it on his solo album.. and that really shows you what Albert is.. he could maybe be a composer for movies or TV or something.. but as a rock musician? He's a joke. Even jacking the Strokes shit he still couldn't add anything of value and all the heavy lifting was done for him...

I mean think about it.. let's say you have ONE IOTA of talent for making music.. and you get to spend nearly a decade with the guy who made Is This It.. and then you jack his shit.. and the best thing you can come up with is what they did for their solo efforts? That's like spending 10 years with Einstein and you steal most his ideas and instead of making a nuke you make a potato canon.. LOL

Albert really shouldn't even have got into music. I thin he was on the right path when he was getting into film school when he first met the band.. I think he only got into music so heavily because he met Julian. It was just like an easy road for him.. he was an opportunist.. never a good way to make decisions..

Not unlike someone we know hiding in school rather than taking the tough road he really wants to take..

[quote="m shea"]It's difficult to compare because they're completely different styles. I think Yours To Keep is good. Perhaps on the same level as Phrazes, I'm not sure yet. I think Albert's stuff is a lot easier to recognize as tasteful from the first time you listen to it, whereas Julian's stuff is more acquired... In Transit and other Hammond songs are timeless, easily appreciated by a wide range. Whether that obscures the value of the music depends on individual opinion.[/quote]

So true.
Most Intelligent thing said on the subject I think
WORD EM UP!

Julian circa 2002 is still pretty much everything i'll ever want to be...ever.

Albert's 2nd album did suck. I barely gave it a second listen. But his first album was great.

Albert did have obvious influences on the first album; "Cartoon Music For Superheroes" was obviously his version of the Beach Boys' "God Only Knows." But I don't see that as inherently bad. Mick Jagger said the Stones' "Stray Cat Blues" was their version of the Velvet Underground's "Heroin." I still love "Stray Cat Blues."

Julian has [i]blatant [/i]influences on PHRAZES. When I first heard "4 Chords" I thought, "Julian is doing Otis Redding." And only after did I read the rock critic of "the Arizona Republic" (Arizona's largest newspaper) say in his PHRAZES review, "[i]The most compelling detour is the 6/8 Memphis soul of "Four Chords of the Apocalypse," where Casablancas channels Otis Redding's greatest hits[/i]."

"Ludlow St." is Julian's country song (probably Johnny Cash was on his mind).

Julian said A-ha was on his mind during PHRAZES, and that's most blatant with "Left & Right In The Dark," which is Julian's version of A-ha's single "Take On Me." I could go on, but that'll do.

Nothing comes from Nothing.

I'm sure it's cryptic like the Strokes.. Albert jacked all that shit..

[quote="newtalent03"]i would have to disagree on this post. Im not starting anything, but alberts stuff is just like hundreds of other cds out there. Not that i dont like it. I think his stuff is good, but
I think julian's has so much more creativity and thought behind it. Whether you look at the lyrics or the music i just think that there is more substance in Phrazes.[/quote]

Haha yeah some of Albert's lyrics don't make any sense. Take Call An Ambulance, for example: he goes from "once I was told that a boy caught a cold" to "she won't leave me because I sleep with her" Or correct me if I'm just naive and they're just cryptic like the Strokes'?

But then, I like Little Joy better than Albert's solo work.

It's difficult to compare because they're completely different styles. I think Yours To Keep is good. Perhaps on the same level as Phrazes, I'm not sure yet. I think Albert's stuff is a lot easier to recognize as tasteful from the first time you listen to it, whereas Julian's stuff is more acquired. The first few listens it's like "eh" or maybe for some of you "wtf?" but as you listen more, the melodies break down, and you can hear all of the different elements that fuse together. On the other hand, In Transit and other Hammond songs are timeless, easily appreciated by a wide range. Whether that obscures the value of the music depends on individual opinion.

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First albert hammond jr solo was cool, just cool, not really good, not crap, but really really far from strokes quality (he doesn't have a really particular voice, nor original melodies, but that not the point thats just a pop album)

Second albert hammond jr was crap, I mean, really crap like a kid of 16 loving the beatles could have done pretty much the same if he had friends to follow him in the nostalgia trip, but the lyrics are so used, melodies are so easy and already heard 100 times before, I almost slept before the end first time I tried it.

I saw him live too, and took a nap 15 min after the beginning (at the pukkelpop, sweet grass though). Really, he's not talented enough to do something really interesting alone.
He could make another band, with another great singer I don't mind, he's a great guitarist, but in a great band you got musicians, proposing or not melodies, but for this to be really great, there's always ONE man/woman who leads, who have the idea.

I think the strokes are all about Casablancas personality, Radiohead is all about Thom Yorke's personality, Queens of the stone age 'bout Josh Homme's and so on.

There are good bands who don't have a real leader though, but in my point of view, to touch people the deeper, you must have somethin to say, a vision of the world, make the difference, and thats a one place part.

Yep... let's suss out all the aliases shall we... that's the only real value of this thread... well done!

I do, too. BACK TO THE 101 is one of my all time favorite songs.

But Julian does have better hair (sorry Albert).

[quote="newtalent03"]i would have to disagree on this post. [b]Im not starting anything,[/b] but alberts stuff is just like hundreds of other cds out there. Not that i dont like it. I think his stuff is good, but
I think julian's has so much more creativity and thought behind it. Whether you look at the lyrics or the music i just think that there is more substance in Phrazes.[/quote]

I'm not Max Fisher, i believe in the right to have differing opinions.

[quote="knowing you"]He's got the better hair though.[/quote]

ngl, i let out a little "squee" in my mind when i saw that cute little blonde stripe in JuJu's hair.

i would have to disagree on this post. Im not starting anything, but alberts stuff is just like hundreds of other cds out there. Not that i dont like it. I think his stuff is good, but
I think julian's has so much more creativity and thought behind it. Whether you look at the lyrics or the music i just think that there is more substance in Phrazes.

NOW xP
But I agree as well.

He's got the better hair though.